
Childhood is that precious part of one’s life that dominates the rest of one’s years. If ever anyone, bit by bit and little by little while heading towards old age, has the guts to glance back at any part of one’s life, then it is none other than childhood, or at the maximum teenage hood. No one cares about the value and importance of these two priceless phases of one’s life when he or she passes through it, but when one is about to touch the ‘naughty (forty) decade’ the recollections of childhood and teenage hood suddenly become important themes.
I am sure as I miss my childhood, so would my elders who would also be missing the religious events, occasions or festivals such as Eid-ul-Fitr, Eid-ul-Adha, Eid-e-Milad-un-Nabi (PBUH), Ramadan or Shab-e-Barat. No doubt that the occasions would be few, but people would rejoice and exult with extreme religious fervour.
Generally weeks before, and in certain cases months before these events, one would wait for them. I still remember that I would wait for the month of Ramadan even at that age when mandatory fasting would not be relevant to me. In fact, it would be the adventure and ecstasy to get up early in the morning and to share the sumptuous Sehri with the elders, and for that I would even promise not to insist on fasting.
I would even go to the extent of blackmailing my mother to boycott the food in case I was not woken up. This blackmailing would work since the Almighty has created mothers merely for getting emotionally blackmailed by their offspring. When my mother would wake me up, I would run around in excitement and would display my efficiency by extending an extraordinarily long helping hand to my beloved mother.
Meanwhile when traditional ‘Dhol (drum), Canister Party’ would pass through the street, waking people up by beating canisters and singing Na’at, I would adjust myself in the balcony to give them a warm welcome. At the time of Iftar, I would sit at the lavishly laid out table in such a way as if I was the one who was fasting.
My father would watch my funny behavior and would throw an irksome glance at me. Finally the time for the month of Ramadan would come to an end and the most colourful religious festival Eid-ul-Fitr would approach. The most attractive and appealing proceedings of Eid-ul-Fitr would compel us to change our loyalties like our worthy politicians normally do. The daydreaming about buying new clothes, shoes and gifts would start.
Usually during the last days of the month of Ramadan, father would take us to the bazaar to buy us all that we had dreamt about during the first 20 days of the month. Now we would take out those clothes every now and then and would ‘show the shining shoe to every guest’ who comes to our home, and finally the Eid night — also known as ‘Chaand Raat’ — would come.
We would find a gift pack of toys on our bedside when we would get up on Eid morning. My parents would claim that those were kept by ‘Chanda Maamu’ (Moon Uncle) sometime during the night. Chanda Maamu is to us Muslim children what Santa Claus is for our Christian counterparts. The same zeal and zest would be displayed when Eid-e-Milad-un-Nabi (PBUH) would come.
All this is haunting me since the last seven, eight years with extreme vigour and verve. Especially when some of our print media companions and a few of our electronic media channels have started projecting those events and occasions, wittingly or unwittingly, which have got nothing to do with our culture, traditions or religion. It was all right as long as Basant would be celebrated peacefully, merely as a kite flying festival, but then it became a nuisance and pest when it started taking precious human lives.
This curse was followed by another lewd occasion known as Valentine’s Day. Some of the newspapers would give this day more importance than what it deserved or required. Some of the papers prominently publish the love messages in their special supplement printed in a striking red colour. Some of the messages would be so vulgar and licentious that even a reader would blush and feel ashamed.
The generation expected to step into the shoes of Khalid Bin Walid, Tariq, Qasim, Jinnah and Fatima are being taught to become Romeo and Juliet. This was not the end. Now it would be the turn of Halloween Day. Sensible and sober people would take pride in becoming ghosts and ghouls. Here in Lahore, Karachi or Islamabad, many a restaurant and hotel would purposely arrange a horrifying Halloween interior layout.
The innocent children would return home with freakish-looking masks. Has any one of us ever thought what is the story and history behind these imported festivals and events? Have we gone bankrupt of our events that we have started importing these celebrations? Aren’t we the ones who are to be blamed for losing out on our young generation?
Today when I try to find out my pious and popular religious festivals like Eid-ul-Fitr, Ramadan, Shab-e-Barat, Eid-e-Milad-un-Nabi (PBUH), Mela Charaghan and many other Islamic and cultural events, unfortunately I find them buried deep under these Halloweens, Valentines, Basants and Diwalis.
A few days back on Eid-e-Milad-un-Nabi (PBUH) when the traditional sweets were sent to one of our neighbours, we were questioned about the occasion. I strongly believe that we have buried these delightful festivals alive and now must wait for the time when our coming generations would dump us in the old age houses to avoid any disturbance likely to be caused by us.
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that's where the difference is!!!! you love any celebrations that bring people together, and they never come out to sake hand with anyone who does not belong to their religion or culture, not even for the good will...duh...
You’ve got a friend in Mexico!!!!!
I wish more people were like you.
As far as your criticism of media about vulgarity is concerned, I think it is matter of opinion. I admit that there have recently been a radical shift in the threshold of obscenity in our culture but again opinions vary. Perhaps our media should launch extensive surveys about what most people like to see and hear while still avoiding imposition of a majority’s/minority’s morals on the rest.
Personally, I value all occasions as important; they may not be the source of joy for me but for my fellow humans, they may rock. So let them enjoy their day and let’s make our Eids happier than ever!
By the way I am not at all a fanatic and I move with the life and if you allow I can send an old column of mine published about three years back in a national daily about Christmas in my support, but compromising on my religious and cultural values like others is not possible for me. Right or wrong, at least I have a faith and believe and there is no explanation of Islam other than the one given by Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet (PBUH) himself. I am not an emotional teenager contributor and what all I scribbled had my true Faith behind it.
Good to know that you are a regional editor of this esteemed blog but if you consider my appearance here as a nuisance I won’t contribute in future. At least it is going to prove many things and moreover my 20 years journalistic career doesn’t require any citation by publishing in a blog. Thanks & wishes
So that pinched you too. You are right sir, I have really wasted my 20 years, otherwise I would have not landed against a stubborn hypocrite here.
Where the folks in teen age considers themselves authority, the problem starts from that very point. I suggest you to read Khalil Jibran’s ’Pity the Nation’. I can fully understand that what views you carry. The best thing we can do is to depart cheerfully. I will always pray for your blog. I will always remember this fleeting stay here.
Wishes
It’s good to see you leave and I will be more than happy to delete your blog from this site. As for your 20 ’golden’ years of journalism, I feel terrible to think of the negativity your pen would have inflicted on the minds of your years. You must have wasted a lot of other people’s time. But if you can still somehow stop yourself from pouring hatred via your words, perhaps many who have so far been safe from its venom would stay safe.
And yes, I am not a teenager.
Good Bye!
Thank you for your kind words but I just thought to let you know I am not a christian but a humanitarian with out ANY religious labels.
I have learnt a lot from reading these blogs and I enjoy reading the different points of view from people around the world.
Its healthy for people to get together and exchange Ideas, to learn and understand each other, although I think there are better adjectives for expressing one self rather than swearing.
I love the spirit of Christmas or any time when it brings out the very best in people of any culture, kindness, giving, sharing, there is very little joy, kindness, laughter or respect for each other in the world.
Life is short, why should people kill each other because of a dogmatic faith in things that can’t be proven one way or another (faith is just hopeful believing about things that can’t be proven in THIS life, if any one did prove it - then there would be only one religion in the world - the Proven one.)
So it is unlawful, unjust, unlogical and patheticaly stupid to kill another person in the name of religion.
Lets just hope there is a nice surprise after death, with out inflicting it on other people.
Given this assurance, I hope you are not offended when I point to the fact that I did not use the words ‘ridiculed other religions’ in my comment. You are free to go through my comment again and read ‘criticism of other special days.’ So my statement, after all, remains correct; ‘ridiculing’ and ‘criticizing’ not at being synonyms.
About liberalism, I again disapprove of your labels of hypocrisy and fascism; it is just the other way around for many people. To appeal to other groups in order to justify one’s biases is also not fair: if communists berated liberals, they did not elate Islam, or did they? Can we say that communism’s repudiation of religion is justified? You may ask yourself this question honestly and share with us your thoughts. Similarly, many forces hate Islam but do we approve of them? I think not! Also, calling liberals as ‘people without an ideology’ makes me smile. May be you need to think a little and decide on the matter with a cooler mind.
I wonder what makes you so defensive of your religious and cultural values. I am sure no one is taking them off from your faithful heart. Why do you feel that if we celebrate Valentine’s Day, our faith will drown? I have friends who enjoy Valentine’s Day and Christmas and New Year day and their faith is not endangered. Take my word: If you are a true Muslim, people’s happiness will not rip your faith of your chest. Let’s live together with people of other faiths and ideologies, and of course those who have no ideologies.
Finally, please don’t quit but stay with us and contribute to our blog. It may not be a milestone in your career but your experience will help us learn from you and help you learn from us.
In Good Spirits,
Thank you for your kind words. You have tried to clarify that you didn’t use the words ’ridiculed’ well if that;s not so then what else one should understand from it, ”your criticism of other special days really comes preposterous”?
I am in no way a radical (that you must have noticed through my article on Christmas)but I am certainty inclined towards the right. I may be a sinner but I have no moral right to justify my wrong doings. One thing should be very clear that we cant define the religion as it suits us. Sharing others religious functions is alright but becoming a part of that is a different thing.
You just smiled but your views on Liberalism made me laugh. I think lets remain in our shells because thats a dbateable issue and my blog is not the right place to do so.
Its really pleasure to meet you. I will think over it wether to contribute for your popular blog.
Warm wishes
Further, can you somehow overcome your own contradictions? ’Sharing others’ functions ok but becoming part of it not ok?’ What exactly do you mean when you say ’becoming part of it?’ If a Muslim celebrates Valentine, he does become part of it (or shares it) but it doesn’t make him a Christian. If a non-Muslim sends you Eid greetings and a card with some sweets, he is surely being part of the celebration but he is not becoming Muslims. I’m sorry to say this but I really wonder what kind of 20 years journalism experience you own when your own expressions are so pathetically studded with confusions and linguistic incompetence.
Well, it won’t hurt me if you want to quit but I would appreciate that, if you choose to contribute in future, please leave your slough of biases, hatred, and hypocrisy behind your writings.
Thank you!
Thanks a lot to be on my side. In nutshell I must say that the ’TIME’ is approaching real fast and we need to fasten our seat belts. The one who would not would be the sufferer.
Mark my words, date & time please.
Warm wishes once again and look after yourself.
Sohail
regards
Sohail
You should feel proud of yourself for saying what you believe is right. Unlike some Muslims who swallow everything from other religions and cultures without thinking if it is against their religion .
You are right. The writer should feel, proud to be what he is, but the irony is that there are hypocrites like Karim on this forum, with lost identity, who cannot tolerate the bitter truth. They consider themselves to be liberal; the most hated filthy class on earth.
I don’t know which part of what I said you consider is a lie. Saying to someone you should feel proud of yourself for saying what you believe is right is a lie? Or saying that some Muslims swallow everything from other religions and cultures without thinking is a lie?
This is the best you could come up with? Calling me a Wahabi and a fundamentalist without telling me why which shows your ignorance and stupidity.
I’m a Saudi girl yes but my identity is Islam .I don’t care where I’m from but I care about Islam and Muslims wherever they are Unlike you who seems lost and doesn’t know where he belongs. No wonder why many here call you hypocrite. I’m beginning to get this now.
I commented on Sohail’s article because I feel proud to see an intelligent and educated Muslim like him saying what he believes is right unlike those who are too open-minded that their brains fall out.
Either you quote something that backs your claims against me, or spare the world your ignorance and stupidity.
No , it is not a lie. And you have no right to call members here liars for expressing their views. There are some Muslims who swallow everything from other cultures and religions without thinking if this is against their beliefs. And I have talked to many, not here on instablogs, but in other palces. And by saying Muslims here, I do not mean just Muslims in Pakistan but Muslims all over the world.
And if you read again , I said ’some’ Muslims. I’m not someone who generalizes like you. I’m not gonna stoop myself to your low level and attack your country or your people to defend myself like you did to me. Actually you do not represent all Pakistanis, you only represent yourself. Stereotyping me by saying I am fundamentalist and calling me names is the best you could come up with.
You cannot quote something that really backs your claims against me. But you can stereotype, disrespect and use a very low language .This is something you should be ashamed of.
I hope the admins here on Instablogs will do something about choosing the right editors. Editors who have manners and tolerate other members’ views. And I hope they can educate karim about manners.
Let’s hope the admins will do something about such editors.
And I do hope brother sohail will stay and share with us his good articles.
1. The world (Educated world) still needs to be educated about the essence of humanity (though a few guys have shared some invaluable thought provoking ideals here)
2. Sohail and Alhamaha in particular need to have a realistic vision for the this common home of human beings. They should rather adopt a pluralistic vision, i suggest so that in addition to being proud of your identity, find it respectful and honorable to value other’s religion, culture and tradition.
3. In the current scenerio why don’t you guys take a look at the fast changing world. Today the world is a global village. Even if you scream loudly, your neighbors may get disturbed or if someone else does so, you may get disturbed.
4. Why to breed hatred and negative thoughts, why not a positive and a more beautiful one.
The choice is simply yours. Educate thyself or just ridicule and get ridiculed out of your ignorance.
As an outsider it seems to me you don’t understand the world and take a view like a grade school child, by saying (can’t we all just get along) ,well look at the world in the eyes of reality, we are as we were a thousand years ago pushing and killing our will on others,AND NOW THE ONLY DIFFERANCE IS THE MEDIA HAS IT IN YOUR FACE IN SECONDS
Let any human that denies they have anger, walk on water and change the bulbs in the light houses of the world
First my name is Almaha, not Alhamaha.
Second, If there is a celebration that goes against my beliefs, I will never celebrate it. Not celebrating it does not mean offending and disrespecting other religions or other cultures, it does not mean I hate non-Muslims. But I cannot do something I do not believe in.
I know how to coexist with others whose beliefs are different from mine, but it does not mean I do things that go against what I believe. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
Thank you
Here is a huge for you!
The problem with borders and flags , cultural and soical conditioning -is we can’t shake them and is locked for life and Mr. Parwaz shows it as you and most everyone else does
Don’t delete or let a weaker mind unset yours because than their mind controls yours
There should be 8 layers of our skin, the 8th used not to let others to get to us ,now smile it will look good on you
There is still some hope for your religion and countries due to people like you and Ikramuddin. :)
You see that a number of people here are bringing terrorist agenda in disguise. This post for example openly disapproves the celebration of non-Islamic occasions while Islam itself does not ban them. The writer Parwaz does not quote anywhere from the holy book(s)why the other occasions must not be celebrated. He pours out his frustrated self and dogmatically assumes that everone must agree with him. that And when you try to make them see thier irrationality, they either run away (like Parwaz) or start barking like a cheap cur (Asif Chaihdry for example). These are the vicious elements that are eating away this nation like worm eats wood.
It is not necessary to use the kind of language that people used in this thread. You were amongst the respected members at IB and shouldn’t have done this.
I am glad that the editors deleted the abusive comments.
Given that, it’s your choice to take your words back or let them stay with us.
I read you and i find a sincere and open mined human with a lot of intellect to share
You know you can’t change a formed mind,so concentrate on those like me that see value in what you say
You don’t have to defend or try to chance minds but remembering people can see what is foolish or not –take care Wayne
I am also surprised that how on earth the blog admin is tolerating a shallow, liar who post the same text with different identities on this site?
The way he addressed you (Saudi Girl)reflects his family background.
As for the matter of identities, I have no idea what the hack is going on there with that turkish ass Ilhan. He seems to be your cosuin illegally migrated to Turkey where he is doing nothing but fueling disputes.Expect him deported soon!
You know what? You guys don’t look at the world realistically. You are just the victims of inferiority complex. Pariticularly when Almaha says that she could understand how to co-exist with a person of the other faith. If it is so in reality, what pains u when they come out and celebrate their festival?
Secondly, you both seem to be lost in a world where you can’t find the proper track to align ur views with ur deeds. Wayne, do u wanna continue killing people like u say ur counterparts have been doing for thousands of years. I’m sorry to say that no logical thought could bring you to this decision buddy.
Thanks
I Never said anything about condoning killing I said look at the world and you can see we are still fighting over borders and flags, traditions ,gods and the stronger others around us, forcing their brainwashing to make us do harmful and illogical things
See people like you ARE so culturally formed that no light in the world could shine through to your common sence ,so to argue with you is pointless, but i hope that someday you can see all humans as the one species we are- all equal and valuable
I was born empty and follow no ones footsteps but look back on the ones i make
The reason i believe your sincere is you us words like us and others ,not i want this or i want that ,yours is a open mind and to debate things with people that have an agenda will only harm your character
Like i said forget about a formed mind they can’t hear but by force try to make others hear what they believe
We are all part of earth so that gives each conscious human a say about it’s well being
Zaheerul anger begets anger and not mutch can be solved and your right i realy don’t know enough about all the issues that have got you all showing the hate towards each other
All i can say is i love all humans and wouldn’t want harm to come to anyone, so to you and all people of the world– Love to you all
As for the article itself, it was amazing, since i am from the same ”view battalion” myself. Once someone said (I really forgot who, but someone did) ”Nations and People who forget their own values and customs and try to follow/copy others never prosper”.
I so agree. I don’t like to walk to downtown and see people from your region coloring my streets with ”Wholi colors” and whatever that is.
Relax and try to know people or what make them tick
All people of the world are inherently good and you just have to look– don’t throw fire on them and think they won’t throw fire back
I Can’t stop laughing! and I thought women could be bitchy. LOL.
I have missed a lot during my absence. The shithead was having lingo loose-motions. MAx, I think you screwed him well. You know I rightly called him a cheater. God knows why the guys at the site are tolerating this chracterless, insolent bastard?
I suppose this is how Wars get started.
Time to quit it no one wants to bother reading any more of this crap......
Lets get a couple of things sorted out;
On one hand you advise others to use sensible language while commenting, (though using contradictory sentiments in a single comment of yours).
I wonder whether your were brouight up among humans or on some animal farm. Please learn some manners of commenting.
but on the other hand, you take pride in showcasing how much filth and venom you can spill out of your mouth. I’m quoting some of your words below, please take a good look AND LEARN!
Wahabi lobby is the most treacherous thing that ever happened to humanity.
Yes it’s clear Zaheer, you were the one brought up on an animal farm and you sound like the filthiest animal that ever walked palnet earth!
they either run away (like Parwaz) or start barking like a cheap cur (Asif Chaihdry for example)
Asif, I am surprisd how a liar and a sycophant like you is ingratiating with that Saudi girl for reasons best known to you (and her). This relfelcts your mean and low family and sub-cultural background. But you can’t be ashmed even because you seem to come from a family that never knew anything called shame.
Canadians don’t have a culture of thier own; all borrowed from the Europeans. And shamelessly so!
It’s a pity that a Canadian cur is raoming about Pakistani pages on the web. Just fuck off to your damned country!
Poor Canadian fag.
I think you and your fag Asif have been writing a lot of these. When are you going to sponsor him to Canada? He is offering his ass so very desperately!
And finally,
Yes it’s not mine (blog) or by now I would have entirely deleted your stupid post and your account from this site. But if you really want to be nice, please leave this blog and bug someone else with your poppycock
listen cur, sohail pervaiz may be your illegitmate leader but it’s your burden to leave after him with your tail squeezed between your leprous legs. So don’t compel us to kick your stinking ass off this blog
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY AS PER YOUR WHIMS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE HIM PERSONALLY?? DISCARD THE THOUGHTS, IF THERE ARE ANY IN YOUR MIND. NO ONE BANS ANYONE ON INSTABLOGS COMMUNITY, THE FATE OF A MEMBER/CONTRIBUTOR/COMMENTOR IS DECIDED BY THE NEGATIVE (AND POSITIVE) RATINGS THAT HE GETS FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS/ARTICLES/COMMENTS.
So, instead of playing ‘big daddy’ and issuing threats to fellow members (to kick them out or ban them), please try to improve your own language (to avoid negative voting) and maintain the respect that you have earned.
Please note that my opinion about you doesn’t mean that I endorse the views of the author of this article or I am defending the views (as in comments) of any particular member.
And, please don’t give me the excuse that you were just replying to their comments and you chose to use their language and tone while replying. Because, if you think you can use SHIT language, and at the same time expect others to use respectful words for you… then you are demanding a bit too much!
I hope I’ve not offended you mate. Actually, I was just pissed off by all the filth and venom that I witnessed on this thread. And, surprisingly, YOU are the one who is leading the filth wagon!
You should have quoted the comments of others that made me respond in the way which set you on fire. But since you have chosen to retype my words for me, I choose not to thank you and instead blame you for your bias, though for reasons you yourself best understand.
I welcome your suggestion that ratings of one’s contributions on IB be held as the criterion for staying/leaving the blog. Just compare the front page ratings of your and my blog and honestly decide who needs to stay and who better leave.
That you were pissed off by my filth and venom…sorry to hear that mate but you did read till the end so you are lying about the comments; you enjoyed them and now you are pouring your venom on me. Better stop playing that Big Brother role and mind your own business buddy! Alternatively, you can lead the filth wagon. It’s up to you.
I hope I have not offended you. But if I did, please go through comment again and se what you wrote and ten asked yourself why did you do it.
Good Day!
I respect your words and agree with it. Its all ”Guns Down” from my side. You seem to be a decent person on this forum and I am sure will handle the things quite nicely. Just keep my this statement on record that I havent mentioned any person by name in this post today.
Good luck
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As far as your criticism of media about vulgarity is concerned, I think it is matter of opinion. I admit that there have recently been a radical shift in the threshold of obscenity in our culture but again opinions vary. Perhaps our media should launch extensive surveys about what most people like to see and hear while still avoiding imposition of a majority’s/minority’s morals on the rest.
Personally, I value all occasions as important; they may not be the source of joy for me but for my fellow humans, they may rock. So let them enjoy their day and let’s make our Eids happier than ever!
By the way I am not at all a fanatic and I move with the life and if you allow I can send an old column of mine published about three years back in a national daily about Christmas in my support, but compromising on my religious and cultural values like others is not possible for me. Right or wrong, at least I have a faith and believe and there is no explanation of Islam other than the one given by Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet (PBUH) himself. I am not an emotional teenager contributor and what all I scribbled had my true Faith behind it.
Good to know that you are a regional editor of this esteemed blog but if you consider my appearance here as a nuisance I won’t contribute in future. At least it is going to prove many things and moreover my 20 years journalistic career doesn’t require any citation by publishing in a blog. Thanks & wishes
Given this assurance, I hope you are not offended when I point to the fact that I did not use the words ‘ridiculed other religions’ in my comment. You are free to go through my comment again and read ‘criticism of other special days.’ So my statement, after all, remains correct; ‘ridiculing’ and ‘criticizing’ not at being synonyms.
About liberalism, I again disapprove of your labels of hypocrisy and fascism; it is just the other way around for many people. To appeal to other groups in order to justify one’s biases is also not fair: if communists berated liberals, they did not elate Islam, or did they? Can we say that communism’s repudiation of religion is justified? You may ask yourself this question honestly and share with us your thoughts. Similarly, many forces hate Islam but do we approve of them? I think not! Also, calling liberals as ‘people without an ideology’ makes me smile. May be you need to think a little and decide on the matter with a cooler mind.
I wonder what makes you so defensive of your religious and cultural values. I am sure no one is taking them off from your faithful heart. Why do you feel that if we celebrate Valentine’s Day, our faith will drown? I have friends who enjoy Valentine’s Day and Christmas and New Year day and their faith is not endangered. Take my word: If you are a true Muslim, people’s happiness will not rip your faith of your chest. Let’s live together with people of other faiths and ideologies, and of course those who have no ideologies.
Finally, please don’t quit but stay with us and contribute to our blog. It may not be a milestone in your career but your experience will help us learn from you and help you learn from us.
In Good Spirits,
Thanks a lot to be on my side. In nutshell I must say that the ’TIME’ is approaching real fast and we need to fasten our seat belts. The one who would not would be the sufferer.
Mark my words, date & time please.
Warm wishes once again and look after yourself.
Sohail
Thank you for your kind words. You have tried to clarify that you didn’t use the words ’ridiculed’ well if that;s not so then what else one should understand from it, ”your criticism of other special days really comes preposterous”?
I am in no way a radical (that you must have noticed through my article on Christmas)but I am certainty inclined towards the right. I may be a sinner but I have no moral right to justify my wrong doings. One thing should be very clear that we cant define the religion as it suits us. Sharing others religious functions is alright but becoming a part of that is a different thing.
You just smiled but your views on Liberalism made me laugh. I think lets remain in our shells because thats a dbateable issue and my blog is not the right place to do so.
Its really pleasure to meet you. I will think over it wether to contribute for your popular blog.
Warm wishes
Further, can you somehow overcome your own contradictions? ’Sharing others’ functions ok but becoming part of it not ok?’ What exactly do you mean when you say ’becoming part of it?’ If a Muslim celebrates Valentine, he does become part of it (or shares it) but it doesn’t make him a Christian. If a non-Muslim sends you Eid greetings and a card with some sweets, he is surely being part of the celebration but he is not becoming Muslims. I’m sorry to say this but I really wonder what kind of 20 years journalism experience you own when your own expressions are so pathetically studded with confusions and linguistic incompetence.
Well, it won’t hurt me if you want to quit but I would appreciate that, if you choose to contribute in future, please leave your slough of biases, hatred, and hypocrisy behind your writings.
Thank you!
So that pinched you too. You are right sir, I have really wasted my 20 years, otherwise I would have not landed against a stubborn hypocrite here.
Where the folks in teen age considers themselves authority, the problem starts from that very point. I suggest you to read Khalil Jibran’s ’Pity the Nation’. I can fully understand that what views you carry. The best thing we can do is to depart cheerfully. I will always pray for your blog. I will always remember this fleeting stay here.
Wishes
regards
Sohail
You are right. The writer should feel, proud to be what he is, but the irony is that there are hypocrites like Karim on this forum, with lost identity, who cannot tolerate the bitter truth. They consider themselves to be liberal; the most hated filthy class on earth.
It’s good to see you leave and I will be more than happy to delete your blog from this site. As for your 20 ’golden’ years of journalism, I feel terrible to think of the negativity your pen would have inflicted on the minds of your years. You must have wasted a lot of other people’s time. But if you can still somehow stop yourself from pouring hatred via your words, perhaps many who have so far been safe from its venom would stay safe.
And yes, I am not a teenager.
Good Bye!
1. The world (Educated world) still needs to be educated about the essence of humanity (though a few guys have shared some invaluable thought provoking ideals here)
2. Sohail and Alhamaha in particular need to have a realistic vision for the this common home of human beings. They should rather adopt a pluralistic vision, i suggest so that in addition to being proud of your identity, find it respectful and honorable to value other’s religion, culture and tradition.
3. In the current scenerio why don’t you guys take a look at the fast changing world. Today the world is a global village. Even if you scream loudly, your neighbors may get disturbed or if someone else does so, you may get disturbed.
4. Why to breed hatred and negative thoughts, why not a positive and a more beautiful one.
The choice is simply yours. Educate thyself or just ridicule and get ridiculed out of your ignorance.
I am also surprised that how on earth the blog admin is tolerating a shallow, liar who post the same text with different identities on this site?
The way he addressed you (Saudi Girl)reflects his family background.
You know what? You guys don’t look at the world realistically. You are just the victims of inferiority complex. Pariticularly when Almaha says that she could understand how to co-exist with a person of the other faith. If it is so in reality, what pains u when they come out and celebrate their festival?
Secondly, you both seem to be lost in a world where you can’t find the proper track to align ur views with ur deeds. Wayne, do u wanna continue killing people like u say ur counterparts have been doing for thousands of years. I’m sorry to say that no logical thought could bring you to this decision buddy.
Thanks
As for the matter of identities, I have no idea what the hack is going on there with that turkish ass Ilhan. He seems to be your cosuin illegally migrated to Turkey where he is doing nothing but fueling disputes.Expect him deported soon!
I have missed a lot during my absence. The shithead was having lingo loose-motions. MAx, I think you screwed him well. You know I rightly called him a cheater. God knows why the guys at the site are tolerating this chracterless, insolent bastard?
You see that a number of people here are bringing terrorist agenda in disguise. This post for example openly disapproves the celebration of non-Islamic occasions while Islam itself does not ban them. The writer Parwaz does not quote anywhere from the holy book(s)why the other occasions must not be celebrated. He pours out his frustrated self and dogmatically assumes that everone must agree with him. that And when you try to make them see thier irrationality, they either run away (like Parwaz) or start barking like a cheap cur (Asif Chaihdry for example). These are the vicious elements that are eating away this nation like worm eats wood.
You should have quoted the comments of others that made me respond in the way which set you on fire. But since you have chosen to retype my words for me, I choose not to thank you and instead blame you for your bias, though for reasons you yourself best understand.
I welcome your suggestion that ratings of one’s contributions on IB be held as the criterion for staying/leaving the blog. Just compare the front page ratings of your and my blog and honestly decide who needs to stay and who better leave.
That you were pissed off by my filth and venom…sorry to hear that mate but you did read till the end so you are lying about the comments; you enjoyed them and now you are pouring your venom on me. Better stop playing that Big Brother role and mind your own business buddy! Alternatively, you can lead the filth wagon. It’s up to you.
I hope I have not offended you. But if I did, please go through comment again and se what you wrote and ten asked yourself why did you do it.
Good Day!
Given that, it’s your choice to take your words back or let them stay with us.
I respect your words and agree with it. Its all ”Guns Down” from my side. You seem to be a decent person on this forum and I am sure will handle the things quite nicely. Just keep my this statement on record that I havent mentioned any person by name in this post today.
Good luck
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that's where the difference is!!!! you love any celebrations that bring people together, and they never come out to sake hand with anyone who does not belong to their religion or culture, not even for the good will...duh...
Thank you for your kind words but I just thought to let you know I am not a christian but a humanitarian with out ANY religious labels.
I have learnt a lot from reading these blogs and I enjoy reading the different points of view from people around the world.
Its healthy for people to get together and exchange Ideas, to learn and understand each other, although I think there are better adjectives for expressing one self rather than swearing.
I love the spirit of Christmas or any time when it brings out the very best in people of any culture, kindness, giving, sharing, there is very little joy, kindness, laughter or respect for each other in the world.
Life is short, why should people kill each other because of a dogmatic faith in things that can’t be proven one way or another (faith is just hopeful believing about things that can’t be proven in THIS life, if any one did prove it - then there would be only one religion in the world - the Proven one.)
So it is unlawful, unjust, unlogical and patheticaly stupid to kill another person in the name of religion.
Lets just hope there is a nice surprise after death, with out inflicting it on other people.
You should feel proud of yourself for saying what you believe is right. Unlike some Muslims who swallow everything from other religions and cultures without thinking if it is against their religion .
I don’t know which part of what I said you consider is a lie. Saying to someone you should feel proud of yourself for saying what you believe is right is a lie? Or saying that some Muslims swallow everything from other religions and cultures without thinking is a lie?
This is the best you could come up with? Calling me a Wahabi and a fundamentalist without telling me why which shows your ignorance and stupidity.
I’m a Saudi girl yes but my identity is Islam .I don’t care where I’m from but I care about Islam and Muslims wherever they are Unlike you who seems lost and doesn’t know where he belongs. No wonder why many here call you hypocrite. I’m beginning to get this now.
I commented on Sohail’s article because I feel proud to see an intelligent and educated Muslim like him saying what he believes is right unlike those who are too open-minded that their brains fall out.
Either you quote something that backs your claims against me, or spare the world your ignorance and stupidity.
Here is a huge for you!
The problem with borders and flags , cultural and soical conditioning -is we can’t shake them and is locked for life and Mr. Parwaz shows it as you and most everyone else does
Don’t delete or let a weaker mind unset yours because than their mind controls yours
There should be 8 layers of our skin, the 8th used not to let others to get to us ,now smile it will look good on you
As an outsider it seems to me you don’t understand the world and take a view like a grade school child, by saying (can’t we all just get along) ,well look at the world in the eyes of reality, we are as we were a thousand years ago pushing and killing our will on others,AND NOW THE ONLY DIFFERANCE IS THE MEDIA HAS IT IN YOUR FACE IN SECONDS
Let any human that denies they have anger, walk on water and change the bulbs in the light houses of the world
I read you and i find a sincere and open mined human with a lot of intellect to share
You know you can’t change a formed mind,so concentrate on those like me that see value in what you say
You don’t have to defend or try to chance minds but remembering people can see what is foolish or not –take care Wayne
No , it is not a lie. And you have no right to call members here liars for expressing their views. There are some Muslims who swallow everything from other cultures and religions without thinking if this is against their beliefs. And I have talked to many, not here on instablogs, but in other palces. And by saying Muslims here, I do not mean just Muslims in Pakistan but Muslims all over the world.
And if you read again , I said ’some’ Muslims. I’m not someone who generalizes like you. I’m not gonna stoop myself to your low level and attack your country or your people to defend myself like you did to me. Actually you do not represent all Pakistanis, you only represent yourself. Stereotyping me by saying I am fundamentalist and calling me names is the best you could come up with.
You cannot quote something that really backs your claims against me. But you can stereotype, disrespect and use a very low language .This is something you should be ashamed of.
I hope the admins here on Instablogs will do something about choosing the right editors. Editors who have manners and tolerate other members’ views. And I hope they can educate karim about manners.
First my name is Almaha, not Alhamaha.
Second, If there is a celebration that goes against my beliefs, I will never celebrate it. Not celebrating it does not mean offending and disrespecting other religions or other cultures, it does not mean I hate non-Muslims. But I cannot do something I do not believe in.
I know how to coexist with others whose beliefs are different from mine, but it does not mean I do things that go against what I believe. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
Thank you
Let’s hope the admins will do something about such editors.
And I do hope brother sohail will stay and share with us his good articles.
I Never said anything about condoning killing I said look at the world and you can see we are still fighting over borders and flags, traditions ,gods and the stronger others around us, forcing their brainwashing to make us do harmful and illogical things
See people like you ARE so culturally formed that no light in the world could shine through to your common sence ,so to argue with you is pointless, but i hope that someday you can see all humans as the one species we are- all equal and valuable
I was born empty and follow no ones footsteps but look back on the ones i make
The reason i believe your sincere is you us words like us and others ,not i want this or i want that ,yours is a open mind and to debate things with people that have an agenda will only harm your character
Like i said forget about a formed mind they can’t hear but by force try to make others hear what they believe
You’ve got a friend in Mexico!!!!!
I wish more people were like you.
We are all part of earth so that gives each conscious human a say about it’s well being
Zaheerul anger begets anger and not mutch can be solved and your right i realy don’t know enough about all the issues that have got you all showing the hate towards each other
All i can say is i love all humans and wouldn’t want harm to come to anyone, so to you and all people of the world– Love to you all
As for the article itself, it was amazing, since i am from the same ”view battalion” myself. Once someone said (I really forgot who, but someone did) ”Nations and People who forget their own values and customs and try to follow/copy others never prosper”.
I so agree. I don’t like to walk to downtown and see people from your region coloring my streets with ”Wholi colors” and whatever that is.
Relax and try to know people or what make them tick
All people of the world are inherently good and you just have to look– don’t throw fire on them and think they won’t throw fire back
I Can’t stop laughing! and I thought women could be bitchy. LOL.
I suppose this is how Wars get started.
Time to quit it no one wants to bother reading any more of this crap......
There is still some hope for your religion and countries due to people like you and Ikramuddin. :)
Lets get a couple of things sorted out;
On one hand you advise others to use sensible language while commenting, (though using contradictory sentiments in a single comment of yours).
I wonder whether your were brouight up among humans or on some animal farm. Please learn some manners of commenting.
but on the other hand, you take pride in showcasing how much filth and venom you can spill out of your mouth. I’m quoting some of your words below, please take a good look AND LEARN!
Wahabi lobby is the most treacherous thing that ever happened to humanity.
Yes it’s clear Zaheer, you were the one brought up on an animal farm and you sound like the filthiest animal that ever walked palnet earth!
they either run away (like Parwaz) or start barking like a cheap cur (Asif Chaihdry for example)
Asif, I am surprisd how a liar and a sycophant like you is ingratiating with that Saudi girl for reasons best known to you (and her). This relfelcts your mean and low family and sub-cultural background. But you can’t be ashmed even because you seem to come from a family that never knew anything called shame.
Canadians don’t have a culture of thier own; all borrowed from the Europeans. And shamelessly so!
It’s a pity that a Canadian cur is raoming about Pakistani pages on the web. Just fuck off to your damned country!
Poor Canadian fag.
I think you and your fag Asif have been writing a lot of these. When are you going to sponsor him to Canada? He is offering his ass so very desperately!
And finally,
Yes it’s not mine (blog) or by now I would have entirely deleted your stupid post and your account from this site. But if you really want to be nice, please leave this blog and bug someone else with your poppycock
listen cur, sohail pervaiz may be your illegitmate leader but it’s your burden to leave after him with your tail squeezed between your leprous legs. So don’t compel us to kick your stinking ass off this blog
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY AS PER YOUR WHIMS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE HIM PERSONALLY?? DISCARD THE THOUGHTS, IF THERE ARE ANY IN YOUR MIND. NO ONE BANS ANYONE ON INSTABLOGS COMMUNITY, THE FATE OF A MEMBER/CONTRIBUTOR/COMMENTOR IS DECIDED BY THE NEGATIVE (AND POSITIVE) RATINGS THAT HE GETS FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS/ARTICLES/COMMENTS.
So, instead of playing ‘big daddy’ and issuing threats to fellow members (to kick them out or ban them), please try to improve your own language (to avoid negative voting) and maintain the respect that you have earned.
Please note that my opinion about you doesn’t mean that I endorse the views of the author of this article or I am defending the views (as in comments) of any particular member.
And, please don’t give me the excuse that you were just replying to their comments and you chose to use their language and tone while replying. Because, if you think you can use SHIT language, and at the same time expect others to use respectful words for you… then you are demanding a bit too much!
I hope I’ve not offended you mate. Actually, I was just pissed off by all the filth and venom that I witnessed on this thread. And, surprisingly, YOU are the one who is leading the filth wagon!
It is not necessary to use the kind of language that people used in this thread. You were amongst the respected members at IB and shouldn’t have done this.
I am glad that the editors deleted the abusive comments.
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